Could Visual Studio Shell be an IDE for FIVEWIN?

James Bott · Post by **James Bott** » Thu Dec 27, 2007 8:38 pm

Antonio,

>but our first requirement is to know if it supports RC files.

I expect you already know this, but VS 2002 (which I have) can load and save RC files (however their format is quite different than those created by Workshop). So, I expect VS Shell is supposed to handle this, but as you say, it must be a bug. Hopefully there will be a fix soon.

James

Otto · Post by **Otto** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 9:36 pm

Hello Antonio,

what limitation problems do I face if I use res instead of rc files.
Is it possible at all?
Can I switch back at any time from res to rc using a resource decompiler?
Best regards,
Otto

Fri Dec 28, 2007 10:16 pm

I can only speak for Borland Resource Workshop: yes, I used RES for years without any problems and can freely convert RES to RC and viceversa.

EMG

Post by **Antonio Linares** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 11:43 am

Antonio Linares wrote:Question already posted:

http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowPo ... D=1&mode=1

Hopefully we get some feedback from MS

Two days the question posted at MS forums and no answers yet...

Otto · Post by **Otto** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 12:23 pm

Hello Antonio,
is integrated mode for us the right way? I think integrated is used for
own extensions if you us it inside VISUAL STUDIO.

I think we have to build a own IDE with isolated mode.

I have tried and I can open rc-files but only with an extern editor.

You can open res files from VS2008 but there must be a way to inherit
in your own IDE this functionality. But how?

Regards,
Otto

Rick Lipkin · Post by **Rick Lipkin** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 3:52 pm

To All

Was hoping Bill Gates was going to give us a gift on his way out the CEO door .. but nada ..

Back to the basic's it looks like .. I hope 'santa' is still working on his Resource editor ??

Rick Lipkin

Otto · Post by **Otto** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 4:40 pm

Otto · Post by **Otto** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 4:50 pm

Creating a External Tool:

Compiling from the IDE

Otto · Post by **Otto** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 5:07 pm

Macro recorder like in WORD

James Bott · Post by **James Bott** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 8:16 pm

Otto,

This all looks very exciting. Please explain what you are doing.

Is this the isolated version of VS 2008?

How did you creat the RC file, in VS or outside VS, then opened it in VS? Why does the window title say Pelles C?

Are you able to compile a PRG in VS?

James

Otto · Post by **Otto** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 8:57 pm

James,

>This all looks very exciting. Please explain what you are doing.
I think it would be nice to have a IDE which is mainstream.

>Is this the isolated version of VS 2008?
yes it is as you say.
You make a project with VS and select the isolated mode template.

>How did you create the RC file, in VS or outside VS, then opened it in VS? Why does the window title say Pelles C?
I open the rc file as a text file. Then in the solution explorer you define “Open with” with for e.g. Pelles.
If you change the file with in my example Pelles C then if you switch back to VS you are asked automatically if you want to reload the file because it was changed.

>Are you able to compile a PRG in VS?
Have a look at the screens:
Creating a External Tool and compiling. You click on go in the menu and the go.bat is executed.
Regards,
Otto

James Bott · Post by **James Bott** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 9:47 pm

Otto,

>>Is this the isolated version of VS 2008?
>yes it is as you say.
>You make a project with VS and select the isolated mode template.

OK, this whole VS, VS isolated thing is confusing (even though I have read up on it). Are you using the standard VS2008 and creating an isolated mode template project, or are you using just the isolated version of VS?

>>How did you create the RC file, in VS or outside VS, then opened it in VS? Why does the window title say Pelles C?
>I open the rc file as a text file. Then in the solution explorer you define “Open with” with for e.g. Pelles.
>If you change the file with in my example Pelles C then if you switch back to VS you are asked automatically if you want to reload the file because it was changed.

So you are tricking it into using an RC file? Can you edit the RC file, using the dialog designer for instance?

>>Are you able to compile a PRG in VS?
>Have a look at the screens:
>Creating a External Tool and compiling. You click on go in the menu and the go.bat is executed.

I saw the screens but wasn't clear on if it was working. With UE, for exmple, when you execute a macro to call a BAT file, it automatically saves any open PRGs before executing the BAT file. Does VS do the same? Would VS also save any other file types like RC before calling the BAT?

Also, UE redirects all the screen output to a window in UE, does VS do the same?

James

Otto · Post by **Otto** » Sat Dec 29, 2007 10:18 pm

James, I never worked with UE therefore I can’t compare.
I downloaded the full VS product 3.3 G (11hours!!!).

Am sure you can setup that all is saved before running the compiler.
>In addition to acquiring the look of Visual Studio, your custom tools built on the Visual Studio Shell have access to the features of the Visual Studio IDE.
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb685612.aspx

Best regards,
Otto

Otto · Post by **Otto** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 11:03 am

Antonio,

>two days the question posted at MS forums and no answers yet...
I am sure you have Live Alerts.
Only in case if you don’t have and your baby "iPhone" takes too much of your time:
I saw that there is a solution posted now.
Regards,
Otto

Post by **Antonio Linares** » Mon Dec 31, 2007 11:31 am

Otto,

Thanks, I am going to review it right now