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VSX - Using its resources editor!!!

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 12:48 pm
by Antonio Linares
1. Install VSX "integrated":
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/deta ... laylang=en

2. Install VSX "isolated" without uninstalling the previous one!
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/deta ... laylang=en

Welcome to your 32 bits resources editor :-)

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:01 pm
by Antonio Linares
Tested and working fine on XP and Vista :-)

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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 2:31 pm
by Antonio Linares
You can use it with RES, DLLs (and EXEs) files

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 4:56 pm
by Kleyber
It can generate and work with RC also?

Regards,

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 5:49 pm
by Antonio Linares
Kleyber,

No RC support, at least not for now

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 6:53 pm
by jcaro
Antonio:

Se puede utilizar un archivo de recursos ( RES) mayor a 1024 byte
y que pueda ser compilado por el xHarbour + BCC551 ?

Ya que con el PellesC, no se puede.


Saludos,

Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 7:31 pm
by Antonio Linares
Juan,

No lo hemos probado. Pruébalo tú y nos cuentas, gracias! :-)

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:34 am
by nageswaragunupudi
What I would expect from an IDE is, when I design a form in the IDE, it should generate a module with the total source code for the form. All my logic goes into event handlers. If I need to modify, the IDE should read the source code, present the form for edit and when I save the modified form, the IDE should save the modifed code. Then why would I need RC file at all?

Anyway with this IDE, I understand we can add and edit resources in DLL. Enough for those who use DLLs for resources.

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 1:20 am
by Antonio Linares
> I understand we can add and edit resources in DLL. Enough for those who use DLLs for resources.

right :-)

Also in RES files

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 2:43 am
by nageswaragunupudi
Thanks for the clarification Mr. Antonio. I use DLLs for resources. ( So Pelles Resource Editor also works fine for me. This heavy-weight IDE is not really necessary if we limit to DLLs for resources. That is besides the point. )

I may be permitted to harp on my first point again. A true IDE's purpose is not mere generation of RC files. Rather the IDE should make this redundant. Separate RC files are relevant in a programming environment where design and source code are in different files. A true IDE should generate whatever is necessary transparently to me and just leave me with the job of putting my logic in the event handlers of controls and form load and unload events. I should not again have a separate RC file and do the tedious work of mapping controls to my source code and hand code all my logic in a separate module.

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 6:39 am
by Antonio Linares
NageswaraRao,

Some FWH users are not satisfied with PellesC IDE, and also find Borland Resources Workshop old fashioned (besides being 16 bits).

Thats where this free VSX 32 bits "resources editor" may be usefull for. We don't consider it an IDE (at least, not by now).

We strong recommend UEStudio as an excellent source code editor and automatic project manager. Now this VSX fits as an excellent resources editor. Maybe in the future, we may be able to replace and extend UEStudio funcionality using this VSX tool.

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 6:50 am
by nageswaragunupudi
I understand, if that is the limited objective for the present. I thought the intention was to make it an IDE for fivewin.

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 7:01 am
by Antonio Linares
We are reviewing VSX to see what functionality it delivers to build an IDE, but up to now, we see it in an early stage.

Or maybe we don't know yet how to really use it. Probably in the future Microsoft may provide more working samples and utilities to easily configure it.

Actually it is a real complex tool, that provides less functionality than UEStudio, in our opinion, and it is by far much more complex to be configured than UEStudio

But its built-in resources editor is a very good one and its another choice for FWH users

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 7:08 am
by nageswaragunupudi
May be it is too early. But Micorsoft's intention is to let it be used to develop it as IDE independantly. I do hope someday we can have a functional IDE for FWin. I mean including code generation. The way we develop VB applications.

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 12:54 pm
by Enrico Maria Giordano
nageswaragunupudi wrote:May be it is too early. But Micorsoft's intention is to let it be used to develop it as IDE independantly. I do hope someday we can have a functional IDE for FWin. I mean including code generation. The way we develop VB applications.
I don't like how VB oganizes things. I much prefer to use a simple editor.

EMG